(With Complete Conviction & Independence)
The goal of this program is simple...
Teach you how to master the Premier Level 5 PRO trading strategy so you can:
✅ Safely Outperform The S&P 500
✅ Preserve capital and minimize drawdowns and...
✅ Profit In All Markets (Including Recessions) without...
❌ Subjectivity, Guesswork, Or Remaining Dependent On Anyone Else.
The key phrase here is: “Without Remaining Dependent On Anyone Else.”
That’s why our goal is to instill maximum confidence and certainty that you feel comfortable allocating at least 50% of your portfolio to this system to trade independently and on your own within four short weeks.
How do we do this?
Step 1. Print out and familiarize yourself with the trade structure and plan.
Step 2. Go through the “Fast Track” learning course,
where we reveal, from soup to nuts, every concept you need to outperform the market with confidence, clarity, and certainty.
Step 3. When you’re ready, follow along with Karl’s live trading sessions to reinforce your trade understanding and execution.
Step 4. Enjoy continued personalized support as you master the strategy through 1v1 Zoom support and our community filled with other dedicated traders.
Step 5. Get on with your day with complete peace of mind, knowing you can safely profit in bull, bear, sideways, and crash markets.
This is for you if you want a passive trading system that has been proven to outperform the market and preserve capital in all four markets...
More importantly, this is for you if you want complete trading independence.
The system you’ll discover has been proven - by dozens of other traders - to be easy to learn, easy to manage, and easy to master without the need for continued support.
This is for you if...
you are a “nest egg guardian” like our member, Martin. You are in retirement or approaching retirement (or you want to retire early), and your goal is to preserve your capital at all costs, potentially trade for a living, and bankroll your sunset years.
This is for you if...
You are a newer trader (like our member George here), or you’re an experienced trader who’s ‘sold’ on the idea of trading, but you have yet to become consistently profitable.
This is for you if...
If you are or were an option premium seller, you’ve been through crashes (like our member Mark) and you’ve learned the hard way that you need to prioritize “risk-adjusted” returns over the trap of “high-win rates”
This is for you if...
You’re a “battle-scarred” trader, and you’ve been “beaten down" by other instructors whose strategies flat out don’t work (because they actually lose money hence them not sharing their P&L)
This is for you if...
You are already a profitable trader, you’ve built up a large portfolio and you want a diversification strategy for lasting passive income and wealth.
This is for you if...
You don’t want to remain reliant on anyone else… and you want complete independence as a trader and investor.
Karl is still finishing up the last remaining graduation interviews with previous students, but here are the highlights from what past students have said:
Highlights:
🚀 “[The PL5 Pro] is actually easier than you think; it's easy to manage and works well in all markets.”
🚀 “If you want to see outsized risk-adjusted returns, it’s really the way to go!”
🚀 “You can do it next to your regular job”
🚀 “[Because of the PL5 Pro] I can actually spend the rest of my time doing what I want in life.”
🚀 “If you are trying to build wealth and create passive income... this is the strategy for you.”
Ultimately:
The consensus among past students is that they are now so confident in the approach that they will allocate (at least) 50% of their capital to this strategy - without the need for continued guidance.
(Feel Free to Hear Directly From Previous Students In The Videos Below:)
If you like what you see here, the next step is to head over to PL5 PRO Checkout
The investment for the program is $10,997, and we are accepting ONLY 1 students at this time because Karl only has so much attention that he can give.
We care about ensuring you get the maximum level of support and guidance needed…
So, if you're ready to dive into this program, then we invite you to join us.
Visit PL5 PRO Checkout to get started.
BONUS #1: 8 WEEKS OF LIVE COACHING SESSIONS
These sessions will happen once a week. The goal is to become a self-sufficient trader in just eight weeks.
Karl will be live on your computer to teach you everything you need to know about mastering the PL5 PRO strategy.
In each session, he’ll cover a key “level 5” trading concept, and then he will manage the PL5 trade in real time in his account while answering each and every question you might have.
These calls will be recorded and sent to you so you can go back and review them on your schedule.
BONUS #2: PL5 PRO TRADE LOG
Karl will personally send you the precise PL5 trade that he will be executing, AND he’ll actually be trading it alongside you with his own money.
You’ll be sent trade details directly to your inbox and smartphone device whenever a trade is opened, managed, or closed.
The trade log will include the underlying, the exact option contracts, entry price…then he’ll alert you when he closes out or make any adjustments.
BONUS #3: PL5 PRO NEXT LEVEL MASTERCLASS
This is for you if you want to TRULY master options trading and become a well-rounded trader with a deeper understanding of how to refine, synthesize, and evolve your own trade plan for ultimate independence.
We'll show you how:
Profit Stack: 'Double' Dip To Make An Extra 4% On Your Money
Campaign-Style Trading: The Ultimate Diversification Strategy
How To Backtest: Video Walkthrough Of The PL5 Through The Crash
Plus more!
BONUS #4: PL5 PRO SUPPORT COMMUNITY (LIFETIME ACCESS)
The "Premier Level 5 PRO" community is your go-to spot to engage with other members, ask questions, and post your trading wins! You can share ideas, ask trading questions, and get invaluable feedback from the community of Premier Level 5 traders.
We firmly believe that no student should embark on their trading journey alone. With access to the "Premier Level 5 Pro" community, you will feel the support and encouragement every step of the way.
BONUS #5: 1v1 OFFICE HOURS SUPPORT (12 WEEK ACCESS)
Our #1 priority is to ensure you master the Premier Level 5 Pro strategy as quickly and effectively as possible. Your success is our mission, and therefore - outside of the live group coaching call - we also offer complimentary personalized support with "Office Hours."
"Office Hours" are dedicated one-on-one sessions where you can get specific, one-on-one assistance for all your PL5 Pro trading needs.
Whether you're seeking clarification, struggling with a specific concept, or just want to discuss your progress, these sessions are designed to help you master the PL5 as quickly as possible.
1. Proven "Market Beating" Profitability With Verifiable Returns:
Everything taught is from real, “in-the-trenches” trading experience. The PL5 Pro has been rigorously backtested and, more importantly, forward-tested to roughly double the returns of the S&P 500.
2. Low Drawdowns & Risk:
As Warren Buffett says: "The first rule of investment is don't lose money. And the second rule of investing is don't forget the first rule."
Risk-adjusted returns and maximum drawdowns are crucial metrics that most investors ignore. After all, it takes a 100% return to compensate for a 50% drawdown.
The backtested data show Premier Level 5 Pro a maximum drawdown of just -9.80% with a recovery of just 85 days, making it around ⅓ of the risk of the S&P 500.
3. Open Book & Ultimate Transparency:
Karl has shown his full trading history through 2019, including trading through 2020. He’s been subject to threats from other educators for exposing fake gurus in his quest for transparency.
All in all, the goal of REAL P&L is to revolutionize this industry and bring transparency to the forefront. We believe that if an instructor makes promises when selling a course, they should prove their credibility by sharing their account P&L
4. Easy To Implement, Execute & Manage:
The Premier Level 5 Pro is focused on only ONE trade structure and ONE set of rules, and you will never have more than four positions at each time.
What this means is that you don’t have to be concerned with learning, managing & or deploying dozens of different options structures, underlyings, and strategies (this is especially important to consider in crash scenarios)
With the PL5 Pro, you simply have to ask yourself a few questions each week when managing your portfolio - that’s it.
5. Extremely Minimal Time Commitment:
No trader wants another full-time job looking at their computer all day. When you keep it simple and objective, you can trade in less than 20 min a week, spend your time how you want, and (if you have a 100% black-and-white trade plan like the PL5) you can become 100% independent as a trader
6. It's Hedged:
What's your plan if the market crashes? There's a price for a good night's sleep. Premier Level 5 Pro is a "sleep easy at night" strategy because it's proactively hedged. If the market crashes, you can sleep easy knowing your portfolio is protected.
7. It’s Objective & Rules-Based:
There’s no need for subjective technical analysis or “magic wand” indicators that we all know are dubious, to say the least. With the PL5 Pro, all trading decisions are based on 100% mechanical, black-and-white & objective rules - removing subjectivity and emotions from the equation. If you can follow the GPS on your phone, you can make the appropriate trading decisions.
8. The Premier Level 5 Pro Is Non-Directional:
Most trading educators rely on directional strategies. Directional strategies work well until they don’t, often resulting in large drawdowns. With non-directional strategies, you can make money in all market environments without predicting the direction of the market.
9. You can trade it on top of your existing portfolio
Many previous students augment their portfolio with the PL5, meaning…you don't have to give up what you're doing right now
The PL5 Pro can be used as the perfect, non-directional “all market profits” foundation.
Due to the concept of “profit stacking” it is possible to trade a SPAN or Portfolio Margin strategy like the PL5 to diversify and/or supplement your current stock/bond portfolio
10. White Glove, 5-Star Support Focused On Your Mastery
With this program, we believe it best to master simplicity in order to earn complexity.
What that means is we will help you master ONE Simple, Objective, Proven Trading Strategy, then give continued support and reinforcement on that ONE Strategy until you’ve mastered it.
This is why we have so many case studies from previous students...
They came to us because they were tired of following alert services (without actually learning how to trade), or they didn’t want to spend months/years sifting through academic theory to create their own trade plan.
We keep it simple so you can protect and grow your portfolio with maximum confidence, conviction & independence.
The Last Program Guarantee:
If you find a better risk-adjusted trading system from any other instructor…with white rules that performs in all four market types and has verified proof of profitability over the last four years… then we don’t want to keep your money.
The Personal Assistance Guarantee:
We know this strategy will work for you. We’ve seen it transform the trading for dozens of individuals. But in case you aren’t blown away by what you'll learn, we won’t let this stop you from seeing the transformative results you deserve. Instead, we’ll personally work with you 1v1 until you master the strategy.
If you like what you see here, the next step is to head over to PL5 PRO Checkout
The investment for the program is $10,997, and we are accepting ONLY 1 students at this time because Karl only has so much attention that he can give.
We care about ensuring you get the maximum level of support and guidance needed…
So, if you're ready to dive into this program, then we invite you to join us.
Visit PL5 PRO Checkout to get started.
Question:
How much time is required to learn the system?
Answer:
Of course, this depends on your previous trading experience; however, previous students have reported that they can grasp the mechanics of the trading plan in just one or two weeks (with ~2 hours/week of study).
Then, after that, they gained a full comprehension of the deeper level theory and “why” the trading system works the way it does after just 4-8 weeks. This deeper understanding is the reason previous students have reported that they are so confident in the system that they will allocate at least 50% of their live capital to the strategy moving forward.
Question: How much time is required to trade/manage the system after?
Answer:
The Premier Level 5 PRO is a relatively passive trading strategy, so much so that previous students have reported it to be more akin to “active” investing rather than traditional “trading” approaches.
Karl only checks his portfolio 2x a week, and the actual “trading” takes only 10-20min a week max.
Also, due to the structure of the proactively hedged trade, there is not a huge priority to “time” any trades - most adjustments are made every 10 days or so.
Question: What is the structure of the program? Is it a live training, recorded videos, self-directed course, alerts, and community?
Answer:
All of the above!
This program will be taught live 1x a week over an 8-week period. The beginning part of the program is designed to get you comfortable with the mechanics of the system.
Then (after 3-4 weeks), most students feel comfortable trading the system live alongside Karl.
To supplement the live classes, you will also get access to a community discussion board to ask questions outside the calls, along with a self-directed course that teaches you the fundamentals of the Premier Level 5 so you can go back and review.
As stated, our #1 priority is to ensure you master the Premier Level 5 strategy as quickly and effectively as possible. Your success is our mission, and therefore - outside of the live group coaching call - we also offer complimentary personalized support with
"Office Hours.""Office Hours" are dedicated one-on-one sessions where you can get specific, one-on-one assistance for all your PL5 Pro trading needs.
Whether you're seeking clarification, struggling with a specific concept, or just want to discuss your progress, these sessions are designed to help you master the PL5 as quickly as possible. These sessions can be scheduled as many times as you need on a flexible schedule tailored to you.
Question: When are the calls? What happens if I miss one?
Answer:
The calls are typically every Tuesday at 8:30 am Pacific (11:30 am Eastern). On these calls, Karl will manage and trade his account in front of you following the exact playbook and plan you’ll receive. After the live trading, he then keeps the meeting open to answer each and every student's question.
We understand that sometimes your schedule might not permit you to show up live for every single call, and that is why we give you the ability to pre-submit your question for Karl to answer.
After each call, we will then post the recording that will be made available to you in perpetuity.
Question: Where are the calls, trade log, and the self-directed course hosted?
Answer:
The entire mentorship is hosted in an all-in-one application that you can access from your desktop web browser along with a mobile app (for iOS & Android)
The application is your one-stop shop to RSVP and join the live call, access the recordings, receive trade alerts, and interact with other students in the PL5 Pro discussion board.
Question: What is needed to execute the strategy?
Answer:
Planned Capital
If you wish to trade the PL5 Pro strategy live, then it is recommended that you set aside at least $35,000 in planned capital.
A Broker With Highest Level Options Approval:
When you have a truly unique trade structure, like the Premier Level 5, some brokers treat your account differently.
There are certain brokers that are suggested for properly executing the strategy. We’ve listed out the specifications further down this page.
Portfolio Margin or SPAN Margin:
Used properly, margin is one of the most valuable tools in a trader’s arsenal, and it can actually be used to decrease risk in your portfolio.
By effectively utilizing Portfolio or SPAN margin, it's possible to employ strategies that are significantly more efficient than those achievable with Reg-T margin - The
Premier Level 5 is one of those strategies.
For the same level of risk, you can achieve a higher return on your capital by using SPAN or Portfolio margin if you manage your trade before expiration.
We’ve listed out more details further down this page.
Highly Recommended] Option Analysis Software
If your goal is to fully understand and master the Premier Level 5 strategy (and gain complete confidence that it performs in all market conditions) - then it is recommended to sign up for the backtesting and options analysis - Option Net Explorer.
Previous students use this tool to practice trading the Premier Level 5 strategy in historical scenarios in order to gain a complete understanding of how the strategy performs in various market conditions (such as the 2020 crash).
Option Net Explorer offers inexpensive and flexible subscription options. Real P&L also offers a 10% off promo code for this application.
Question: What financial instruments does the Premier Level 5 trade?
Answer:
The Premier Level 5 Pro is designed to trade options on either the SPX index or the
E-mini S&P 500 (/ES) futures.
PL5 Pro Members who financially qualify for Portfolio Margin typically trade the SPX
PL5 Pro Members who are unable to qualify for Portfolio Margin typically trade the /ES
Question: Which Brokers Can I Use?
Answer:
Determining which broker to use is ultimately a personal choice that can vary based on your preference and location; however, there are certain prerequisites to consider if you wish to trade how Karl and other members trade.
The Ability To Execute 'Unconventional' Custom Orders On A Single Ticket
When you have a truly unique trade, some brokers treat your account differently.
The PL5 Pro Trade Structure is a proprietary custom order that is so unique that some brokers do not permit it to be executed on a single ticket - resulting in them requiring you to "leg in" and "leg out" of a position.
Advanced Trade Grouping & Management (If Not Using Option Net Explorer)
The PL5 Pro trade plan leverages a “campaign-style” trading approach that enables you to diversify the portfolio across both time and volatility. Therefore, when managing the PL5 trade(s), certain requirements need to be satisfied, including the ability to add trade chain history into a risk graph. We’ve listed the brokers below to help.
The Ability To Trade Options On Either SPX or /ES
The Premier Level 5 Pro does not employ naked option selling. However, it is recommended that you get the highest level of options trading approval from your broker.
Question: Is it easy to get approved for SPAN and/or Portfolio Margin?
Answer:
To trade the PL5 Pro, you either need SPAN or Portfolio Margin (one or the other depending on your financial qualification)
If you financially qualify for Portfolio Margin, certain brokers deem it necessary for you to pass a questionnaire/test. If this is the case for you, Karl will help you (at no cost) pass this test - though it is a relatively easy test for most options traders.
If you do not financially qualify for Portfolio Margin and you wish to trade live, then SPAN margin is suggested. To get a SPAN margin, you need to be approved for futures trading with your broker.
If you are trading /ES & SPAN margin, using Interactive Brokers might be advantageous commissions-wise. They generally have the lowest commissions for future options. They also are more lenient in getting approval for futures.
Question: What is the structure of the trade?
Answer:
There is only one trade structure used. It is a proactively hedged option selling structure that is proprietary but mostly akin to a “Broken Wing Butterfly.”
Don't settle for traditional trade structures that may not efficiently extract an edge. Conventional methods like iron condors, butterflies, and covered calls might not provide the edge needed for consistency. Instead, consider proprietary trade structures that align with your goal of consistent success.
Question: How do you handle the PL5 Pro if you can't monitor trades all day?
Answer:
The PL5 Pro is relatively passive in that you typically only put on trades or make adjustments every 10 days or so. This is how you can trade it in minutes a week. Typically, you want to monitor your positions at the same time every day, but it's not always crucial.
Once fully understood, most students get into the habit of only checking their position twice a week (unless there is a lot of market activity). If you monitor your positions all day, every day, you might find yourself making multiple adjustments or unnecessary exits.
Question: Will the edge be eroded over time as you introduce more and more people to the PL5 Pro?
Answer:
No, the edge is the “Option’s Seller’s Edge” or that Implied Vol. > Realized Vol. That said, it might be advantageous once you learn the trade to trade it at different times to get more preferable fills.
Question: Can I trade the Premier Level 5 Pro on top of other strategies, such as a stock/bond portfolio?
Answer:
Yes, many previous students augment their portfolio with the PL5 Pro.
The PL5 Pro can be used as the perfect, non-directional “all market profits” foundation. It is the most objective, conservative, yet market-beating starting point that we have found to be easily taught and replicable by students
Due to the concept of “profit stacking,” it is possible to trade a SPAN or Portfolio Margin strategy like the PL5 to diversify and/or supplement your current portfolio
…you don't have to give up what you're doing right now